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12/02/02 -- 9:39 pm (EST)
Interview with Kathryn Williams
We chat with well known writer & artist, Kathryn Williams
about the upcoming Shoujo-ai Film Fest.
Over the weekend we had the
unique opportunity to talk with Kathryn Williams, the well
known managaka writer / artist. The writer of the most
informative essay about Central Park Media’s upcoming Alien 9.
And Organizer of the
Toronto
Shoujo-ai Film Fest, coming to Toronto on December 14th.
Below is our interview with her, as she discusses her
involvement in bringing
Alien 9
to North America and the Film Fest and
Yuricon.
Otaku AniVerse: Explain what you do? Like what do
you on a daily basis?
Kathryn Williams: Umm what don't I do? Well it depends
on my day. As I said, I just got bored and just started doing
anime as a, well it used to be a hobby. And now it became
studying of an art form. And now I study everything in
association to it. Do artwork as well and do stuff for
conventions, video editing and history and anything else that
will keep me busy!
OAV: Explain what is the Shoujo-ai Film Fest all
about?
Kat: It started because, another con for women's
animation said that Shoujo-ai doesn't exist, and that lesbians
are for men. This got a bunch of girls really angry, I
stumbled across them a year and a half ago. And said "How
badly do you want this to happen?" And they said "Well we do!"
So I said, "Good, I've got an idea". And I started helping
them get the word through cons and they became ALC, which is
now Yuricon. And now we travel around doing shows and
discussions all over North America. Since a lot of people
aren’t going to be able to make it to the one in New York and
the New York one also has an age restriction of 18+. I decided
to make one in Toronto. So I made a small one day, 'teaser' to
show people what we're trying to do. Because there's a lot of
jokes going around saying that Yuricon is going to be one big
thing for, sorry to say this but 'drooling fan boys'. There's
also jokes about people saying that old men are going to be
there. And that it’s not going to be any fun. I tell these
people "No we've got quite a few lesbians going to be there!
And it’s run by lesbians and its going to be quite
interesting.”
Because at the actual con, instead of a normal dance, it’s
a singles dance. There having auctions, where people actually
willingly auction them selves off to be a slave for the week.
(Laughs) We also have all sorts of odd things that no other
con has put together.
And it all has to deal with the lesbian community, because
we decided to be more of a community oriented thing, and not
just a con. Cons don't even meet or inter-mingle. We have been
at, I believe 20 conventions in the last year. Where we've
done discussions, been guests of honour and things like that.
I was put on as guests of honour, but every guest of honour
positions I've had, I don't like just sitting around and
waiting for the con. I like trying to bring anime to the rest
of the world, and make it the best show possible. So I end up
working for them doing artwork.
AnimeNorth I did
mascot art for a few years, I lend my collection (of anime), I
do discussion groups, teach lessons, anything to make the
convention more a fuller and fun experience for anyone!
And it’s sort of my drive to "culturelize" all of North
America. It gets annoying hearing people saying (anime) is for
children -- When it’s NOT for children. I think Alien 9 is
going to be one of the big ones proving it’s not just for
children.
OAV: How many people are you expecting to show up
for the festival?
Kat: Umm... I don't know (laughs) It all depends on if
more people will get a hold of me, I have like, several
interviews, and it all depends on what the draw will be. So
far I think we have somewhere around 20 but that's about it...
It’s a big thing, because Shoujo-ai is like, unknown. It’s not
even talked about in Japan. We found out that Yuricon is the
first ever. This one, (Shoujo-ai film festival) is going to be
the first ever collective film festival of Shoujo-ai in the
world. And Yuricon is going to be the first full weekend of
this. There are actually having people from Japanese lesbian
magazines coming to this, we've heard about a flight of
Japanese lesbians are coming to Yuricon because it’s something
that has never been done before. There is no spot for it; we
were actually told that currently it is the year of shonen-ai
and yaoi. And we were like "But shonen-ai and yaoi isn’t
really a culture! It’s just fan girls!" It’s like a Hental
con, because it’s just girls drooling over guys together. Yet
we have girls drooling over girls together! (Laughs) But
that's allowed! (I dunno, laughs)
OAV: What seems to be the most challenging part,
while working on this?
Kat: Getting people to take you seriously... Walk into
a place and say you're putting together a film festival for
lesbians in animation... You will get laughed at. Because the
instant they think, it's porn... And they want to have nothing
to do with it. So it’s a fighting battle, I would have to go
out with my bag filled with stuff (being anime). I have had to
do screeners, decision groups, write huge essays and saying
"HERE! IT'S NOT PORNOGRAHIC!" I've had to bring books with me
and everything I can think of to prove to them it’s not what
they think it is. It's sweet, it's innocent, it can be
sexual... but that's the yuri section.
Yuricon is trying to focus on up to rated R. She did say
she was going to have Hentai rooms... but that's going to be
late at night, and what she wants to play. This is the funny
thing, it’s a lesbian organizer who's playing what she wants
to play (laughs) So... oh god the weird things, I don’t know
if you've seen this one... It's about the mysterious masked
woman that wears just a mask... nothing else! Oh no wait! She
wears boots... that's it! (laughs) And she fights crime that
way! And saves cutie girls all the time! (laughs)
OAV: How much time, planning and work was needed to
get this going?
Kat: I started planning it, back during pride (week in
Toronto). I tried to see if anyone wanted to help out, I got a
lot of people enthusiastic about it... then they all vanished.
So I ended up in charge. The only good thing was I owned
everything. So all I needed was someone to help me convert my
collection to VHS, then we found out we have a DVD player as
well so I had to buy a DVD... Actually two, Miyuki-chan in
Wonderland because I want to give away a copy. And Adolescence
of Utena. Those two are the only two DVDs I had to buy for
this. Everything else came as I went along. Now we're just
panicking trying to put everything together.(laughs)
OAV: Okay, moving away from the film fest for a bit.
What part of CPMs Alien 9 North American localization are you
assisting with?
Kat: My essay was just given to John O'Donald, and he
wants to put it on their site. And he's giving it to the
production staff, so they can figure out the best way to
advertise the film and how to tackle the negative energy
that's coming from some of the people about it. Which is why
he liked the fact of finding me, I have already been tackling
some of the issues that he never even knew existed. In truth,
I don't know if they would even be prepared for what was going
to happened when they brought this film out. Because I've seen
people spit at the screen, I've seen people swear, scream.
Never mind the fact that how many people want to kill Yuri,
which just drives me mad. I mean reading review about someone
wanting to turn a shotgun on a little 12 year old (girl) made
me want to cry. And I know these people, I looked at him (the
reviewer) and went "I know you; you hate me, why am I even
listing to you?"
But John asked me to send all the reviews I could find
about Alien 9 so they can get a better perspective on what
they are dealing with.
OAV: How long did it take you to work on the Alien 9
paper?
Kat: The essay, it started off with me doing a
discussion on the film at AnimeNorth 2002. And people actually
applauded the discussion even though it was heart wrenching
and nearly fell apart. They asked me if I was going to put all
my thoughts on paper. I said, "I'll think about it." And I
thought about it. And god! Going over the film, doing the
music video, I went
over that film 20 times! And I mean frame by frame! To the
point, I was like "Oh my lord look at the detailing!" I wasn't
until, talking to John O'Donald that I (said) I should get
this done, because CPM wants it. I wanted to do it for my
fans, but there was no time and if I did it on my website, how
many people would it get to? Now there stating that they're
going to be putting it on the Alien 9 North American webpage.
That means more people will see it. So it will get to everyone
it will get to... Which I hope is a lot of people.
OAV: Finally what are some words you have for people
looking forward to this?
Kat: I state to everyone that Alien 9 is the most
disturbing thing I have seen. But the must beautiful, it is so
prefect. But if you are not ready for it, if you are an abuse
survivor it can cause flashbacks. I've seen people start
shaking watching it, but they forced them selves through it.
I've seen this help people, cope with there own problems.
Someone wrote to me after reading the essay that not only it
gave them insight on the anime, but it gives an insight on
your self on how you felt after the anime was over. And I went
"Oh didn't expect that!" because everyone talked about how
horrible it was, but they don't realize that this stuff
happens all the time. Sure it’s not aliens, but the whole
confusion about the suicide and everything. And everyone is
sort of lost saying what the heck is going on? And people
angry because the story had no happy ending. And my remark to
them is "There are no such things as happy endings." It’s a
rollercoaster, there's ups and downs, but there is no happy
endings... Just a new beginning.
OAV: Okay thank you!
--
Eddie Hicks,
Otaku Aniverse
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